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Ken Kochanski
October 26th 03, 12:07 AM
http://www.serve.com/BSA/sra.htm

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John
October 26th 03, 03:27 AM
Wow! Very surprising..... most of us are thinking alike.

Now, will the people in charge of the rule-making actually listen and cool
it?


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tango4
October 26th 03, 07:02 AM
Interesting point raised about turbo's vs Self Launchers and the 25 point
airfield landing bonus.

If I was low over an airfield with the lift shot to hell my first thought
would be "how much further would I have to go before starting the engine to
nullify the 25 point bonus loss and still not have to drag a crew along?".
Making the turbo land for the 25 points is a counter safety rule! I'd
consider pushing out along track and risking a low start to get around that
one and I consider my competition decision making as "conservative".

Ian

"John" > wrote in message
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> Wow! Very surprising..... most of us are thinking alike.
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> Now, will the people in charge of the rule-making actually listen and
cool
> it?
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Mal
October 26th 03, 12:52 PM
enough 404 errors in the website !


"tango4" > wrote in message
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> Interesting point raised about turbo's vs Self Launchers and the 25 point
> airfield landing bonus.
>
> If I was low over an airfield with the lift shot to hell my first thought
> would be "how much further would I have to go before starting the engine
to
> nullify the 25 point bonus loss and still not have to drag a crew along?".
> Making the turbo land for the 25 points is a counter safety rule! I'd
> consider pushing out along track and risking a low start to get around
that
> one and I consider my competition decision making as "conservative".
>
> Ian
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> "John" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > Wow! Very surprising..... most of us are thinking alike.
> >
> > Now, will the people in charge of the rule-making actually listen and
> cool
> > it?
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> > "Ken Kochanski" > wrote in message
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Marc Ramsey
October 26th 03, 03:58 PM
Mal wrote:
> enough 404 errors in the website !

No, they have simply "optimized" the SRA website for users of Internet
Explorer. Users of other browsers are obviously not serious about
sailplane racing, and should go elsewhere...

Marc

Eric Greenwell
October 26th 03, 06:32 PM
In article >,
says...
> Mal wrote:
> > enough 404 errors in the website !
>
> No, they have simply "optimized" the SRA website for users of Internet
> Explorer. Users of other browsers are obviously not serious about
> sailplane racing, and should go elsewhere...

The W3C page validator at http://validator.w3.org/ complains about
every line in it. It's such a simple page, I'm guessing they didn't do
anything fancy, but just got some critical item non-standard, and
that's why Netscape 7.1 can't get the menus to work.

The menus aren't even needed, as everything could be listed on one
page in table form.
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Eric Greenwell
Richland, WA (USA)

Paul Remde
October 26th 03, 07:18 PM
Hi,

I can't get the page to work either, and I'm using the latest versio of IE.

Paul Remde

"Eric Greenwell" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >,
> says...
> > Mal wrote:
> > > enough 404 errors in the website !
> >
> > No, they have simply "optimized" the SRA website for users of Internet
> > Explorer. Users of other browsers are obviously not serious about
> > sailplane racing, and should go elsewhere...
>
> The W3C page validator at http://validator.w3.org/ complains about
> every line in it. It's such a simple page, I'm guessing they didn't do
> anything fancy, but just got some critical item non-standard, and
> that's why Netscape 7.1 can't get the menus to work.
>
> The menus aren't even needed, as everything could be listed on one
> page in table form.
> --
> !Replace DECIMAL.POINT in my e-mail address with just a . to reply
> directly
>
> Eric Greenwell
> Richland, WA (USA)

Wayne Paul
October 26th 03, 08:02 PM
It works for me.

When viewing the code, I see a mixture of JAVA, layer based pull-down menus
and XML.

I attempted to use this approach on my website. I abandoned the idea when
my regular visitors complained. Standard table based html has never
precipitated inaccessibility complaints.

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com



"Paul Remde" > wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I can't get the page to work either, and I'm using the latest versio of
IE.
>
> Paul Remde
>
> "Eric Greenwell" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > > Mal wrote:
> > > > enough 404 errors in the website !
> > >
> > > No, they have simply "optimized" the SRA website for users of Internet
> > > Explorer. Users of other browsers are obviously not serious about
> > > sailplane racing, and should go elsewhere...
> >
> > The W3C page validator at http://validator.w3.org/ complains about
> > every line in it. It's such a simple page, I'm guessing they didn't do
> > anything fancy, but just got some critical item non-standard, and
> > that's why Netscape 7.1 can't get the menus to work.
> >
> > The menus aren't even needed, as everything could be listed on one
> > page in table form.
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> > directly
> >
> > Eric Greenwell
> > Richland, WA (USA)
>
>

Karl Striedieck
October 26th 03, 10:22 PM
For the folks having trouble getting the 2003 Pilot Poll results on the SRA
website, it will be posted on the SSA website as soon as it is feasible to
do so. Currently, the SSA is unable to make it available.

Meanwhile, I will send it as an attachment on an email if individuals will
contact me.

Karl Striedieck




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David Leonard
October 26th 03, 10:45 PM
here's a direct link that should work if you have a pdf viewer

http://www.serve.com/BSA/POLL03.PDF


Karl Striedieck wrote:
> For the folks having trouble getting the 2003 Pilot Poll results on the SRA
> website, it will be posted on the SSA website as soon as it is feasible to
> do so. Currently, the SSA is unable to make it available.
>
> Meanwhile, I will send it as an attachment on an email if individuals will
> contact me.
>
> Karl Striedieck
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>
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> "Ken Kochanski" > wrote in message
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Ken Kochanski
October 27th 03, 12:17 AM
Here is a link directly to the poll ...

http://www.serve.com/BSA/POLL03.PDF

Eric Greenwell
October 27th 03, 08:04 PM
In article >,
says...
> Interesting point raised about turbo's vs Self Launchers and the 25 point
> airfield landing bonus.
>
> If I was low over an airfield with the lift shot to hell my first thought
> would be "how much further would I have to go before starting the engine to
> nullify the 25 point bonus loss and still not have to drag a crew along?".
> Making the turbo land for the 25 points is a counter safety rule! I'd
> consider pushing out along track and risking a low start to get around that
> one and I consider my competition decision making as "conservative".

I sympathize with you (I was the one that proposed allowing the
airport bonus for starting over an airport), but at least you don't
have to get involved in the debate to allow self-launching at contests
(US)!

It does seem like sustainers are even less considered than self-
launchers when it comes to contests, probably because there are
relatively few of them in the US.
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Eric Greenwell
Richland, WA (USA)

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